Moratorium on Mary Jane: Communities find ‘medical marijuana’ isn’t such a good thing to have around

Dan Calabrese

It hasn’t been that long since states began passing laws legalizing “medical marijuana,” even though pot remains illegal on the federal level. The new state laws were cause for celebration for stoners, who just have to find unethical doctors willing to give them a note in exchange for a C-note or two, and they can get stoned legally.

Gee, who’d have thought there would be problems?

The best and the brightest.

Communities across the country, like California’s Fresno County and the Michigan municipalities of Pontiac and Waterford Township, are now moving to place moratoriums on “medical marijuana”-related businesses.

Part of the concern is zoning, since no community has a zoning ordinance that expressly allows for business who sell pot. But the larger concern, as expressed by Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims, is crime.

But how can this be? The people whose lives revolve around their cherished stupor-inducing weed told us that legalizing pot would “take the crime out of it.”

Oh. Of course. That was complete bullshit.

First, go to any chief of police in any community in America, and ask this question: If everyone in your community stopped drinking alcohol and smoking pot, entirely, how much of the crime to which you have to respond would be eliminated? I’ll bet they tell you at least 80 percent. And I’m not talking about the crime of buying and smoking pot. I’m talking about the stuff people do when they’re under the influence of one or both.

Although the company line is that smoking pot just makes you mellow, dude, many pot smokers will admit on cross-examination that pot intensifies personality traits. If you’re melancholy, you’ll get really melancholy. If you’re reckless, you’ll get really reckless.

And when your personality traits are intensified, and your ability to exercise control over them is reduced, you’re more likely to do things that your better judgment would ordinarily prevent you from doing.

Sheriff Mim seems to understand better than California state legislators that “medical marijuana” is a misnomer. It’s not just a bunch of pain-stricken cancer patients using the only thing that relieves their pain, restores their appetite, etc. And even if smoking pot does do that for some people, only the most naive among us would actually believe the larger movement to legalize “medical marijuana” is really about that.

Back in Michigan, the city of Pontiac is now grappling with another marijuana-related problem: Stoners have leased the previously shuttered Pontiac Silverdome and plan to hold the “First Ever International Cannabis Convention” at the former home of the Detroit Lions, whose fans just might show up, as they will take any pain relief they can get.

Pontiac Police Chief Val Gross is not happy. For one thing, the organizers of the event put this whole thing together which even giving a heads-up to the police, which is a strange thing to do if you’re so convinced the law is on your side.

But it’s not, of course. For one thing, smoking pot in general is still illegal in Pontiac, as is possession of marijuana-related paraphernalia. The city has no plans to change any of these laws. For another thing, smoking anything in any public place became illegal in Michigan in May. Whether you agree with that law or not, it’s the law, and Pontiac law enforcement officials now have to spend big money and probably put in lots of overtime to make sure that a bunch of stoners convened under the Silverdome roof aren’t thumbing their noses at the law en masse.

So the moratoriums pile up, as communities realize that having these “dispensaries” around to attract stoners is not such a good thing.

Could it be that the reasoning upon stoners built the case for “medical marijuana” was a complete fraud, and communities are only just now starting to realize this? Eh . . . could be.

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121 Responses to “Moratorium on Mary Jane: Communities find ‘medical marijuana’ isn’t such a good thing to have around”

  • Since john does not believe in the sciences I must assume he has never heard of biometrics…..either way he is an irrational fool.

  • John English:

    Law enforcement must have a way …of quickly and easily detecting repeat offenders in the field…such markings would make them easily identifiable.
    The increased/enhanced border security measures would make illegaly entering the country difficult while the increased penal penalties would make it an unattractive option for all but the most hardened…and brazen…crimenals to risk. Any offender caught with these markings could automaticaly be considered dangerous…having been caught once and still willing to run the risk of greater penalties…thereby helping to insure the safety of the personel charged with handling the problem. Physical disfigurement is the only way to insure

  • Chet R Biggerstaff:

    “Users offer marijuana to youth to break down their resistance to sex. Also, the fact that THC crosses the placenta as well, into the bloodstream of the fetus, it is important for women to know that by smoking marijuana, they can be damaging their children even before they’re born.

    Legalization of marijuana, no matter how it begins, will come at the expense of our children and public safety. It will create dependency and treatment issues, and open the door to use of other drugs, impaired health, delinquent behavior, and drugged drivers.

    Without facts your rant means nothing. How about this…back up what you say with facts that can be verified and then and ONLY then would i even consider your opnion as right now your a blathering child.

  • John English:

    Rubbish! Its all rubbish!!! Can’t you myopic fools see the raw, visceral sense in what I am arguing?!

    These are hard decisions, and they have to be made by hard people….people like me. So go on Chet, keep on thinking that you can fool all of the people with your bunny trails of “data”. The rest of us (grownups) are going to be moving along now and, getting to work cleaning the cat crap out of the sandbox of American Society. I’m talking about ‘medical marijuana’.

    Medical marijuana is a scam. Py attention to some of my further posts myopic druggies, and learn about how you have been duped by a billionairre who wants to enslave you.

    What a moron.

  • Conservative Christian:

    I’m a “swim dad” (a near-relative and kindred spirit with soccer moms), and I hope my kids don’t use marijuana, either as teenagers or as young adults, but if they do, I REALLY hope they don’t end up in jail! I hope that all parents will join in the fight to stop putting our own kids in jail over something as silly as marijuana. Yes, it dumbs a person down for a little while (about as bad as a day on the video games) and yes, it has some minor health effects (about as bad as smoking a cigarette, I suppose), but those aren’t NEARLY as bad as the effects of being locked up IN JAIL WITH THE SEXUAL PREDATORS, and loss of financial aid, etc. that comes, not from the marijuana, but from the LAW. It’s time to quit letting government officials ruin our kids’ lives over a little marijuana!
    Californians: register to vote at
    h t t p s://w w w .sos.ca.gov/nvrc/fedform/ Just fill out the form and mail it in!
    Other states: Google your state name and “voter registration” to find out how to register!

  • AlansK:

    Wow Dan, you’re spewing non-sense. It seems you believe alot of misinformation about marijuana. Can you cite any studies that show marijuana causes an increase in crime when the marijuana itself is legal?

    I understand that possession in your own home is legal in Alaska, have you got any evidence that it’s caused a problem?

    It’s supposed to be a free country Dan. If you don’t like marijuana then don’t use it but for the love of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution don’t try to make the rest of us adhere to your beliefs. You’re not always right.

  • John English:

    Conservative Christian – Ummmmm, if you’re for smoking reefers, then you’re not a Christian. Gawd!

    Second of all, you’re saying that you don’t mind if YOUR kid…..YOUR flesh and blood….from YOUR seed…..winds up a DEAD, rotting carcase that gets thrown out with the garbage, in some filth ridden shooting gallery in the Bronx.

    Well mister, I suuuure feel sorry for you. You see, marijuana is a gateway drug that inexorably leads down a path to heroin addiction…at least for some. But I guess that’s okay for you huh ‘conservative christian’….just so long as your kid was able to avoid a year’s worth of rehabilitation in prison.

    Well, we’re going to keep on fighting you people. You don’t stand a chance!

  • As I have pointed out mr english is a real putz. He doesnt seem to know the story of genisis or that in the bible god said he gives man ALL SEED BEARING PLANTS FOR OUR USE. Again you really need to get that foot out of your mouth john….

  • John English:

    Chet – Pull the pipe our of your rear end, and learn how to spell, and capitalize when you need to.

    So how about running that last post of yours through a spell/grammar checker. Then come back and try to climb back into the ring with a champ.

  • As I have also stated when the oppisition has no more ability to qoute the true facts backed by science they will ALWAYS resort to personal attcks such as the above. What a useless person.

  • John English:

    I like it how these libturd Kommies go around quoting the Bible when it is convenient for them.

    Hey Chet! When was the last time you made it to Church? I bet its been a while eh?

    Don’t go around quoting the Word unless you mean to live up to its high standards.

  • John English:

    As has been pointed out by the liberal legalizer crowd the United States has more prisoners per capita than any other nation on earth…more than even nations like North Korea, China, or the Soviet Union. Three Strikes laws seem to have little deterent value for the most hardcore of our felons…something new must be tried. At an average cost of $35,000 per year per felon we simply cannot afford to keep locking Three Strikers up for life…a cost that will bankrupt this once moral and great nation. It’s time to “man up” and do what we should have done long ago…Three Strikes and your out…out of time on this earth! We need to raise the penalty to a capitol offense…rather than feed, clothe, shelter, and provide medical care to those who wish to wage war on society through there deviant behavior…we need to eliminate them. We need to streamline the process and carry out the executions in a swift and timely fashion. Once the crimenal element sees our resolve in this matter they will begin a serious re-evaluation of there life choices…choices only they can be held resposible for…and many will finally see the light. For those that choose to continue in there evil ways…being a burden on society rather than an asset…we should show no pity…as they have none for us!

    I know I’m a locksmith! Think of the children!

  • John instead of attacking me personaly why dont you answer the questions that have been put forth with facts that can be verified? We know as well as you that you can not and that is the reason for the personal attacks. Grow up moron.

  • “Don’t go around quoting the Word unless you mean to live up to its high standards.

    HAHAHA then you should have your tongue cut out my friend as you are NOT living up to those ideals….no compassion no humanity and definitely no respect for true facts backed by science. As usual when we get to this point John I will have to ignore your comments again as you have gone way past reasonable and are into the loony responses again. It is people like you that give religion a very bad name as you profess to be a good lil god solider but you hold NONE of his tenants true. You know he has a place for people like you….

    So far in our “conversation” this time around you have been presented with a multitude of science based fact and lots of questions you just seem to ignore while in turn you focus your attacks on points of a personal nature. This is right out of grade school….heh I guess some people never grow up and never can take the truth as you just can’t handle it. I would love to get you on stage in a debate (as I did with Steve Lowe our local county prosecutor and yes I did win the debate)as your position is unsupportable and everyone here reading these responses now knows just how much of an idiot you are. If I see a single article come out from you supporting lies and misinformation I will again run a campaign with letters to the editor to have your lies removed just as we did in Portland and you will be thrown out again. You sir are a fraud and a very evil man. Good day

  • Mr english is so VERY good at undermineing his own position I wish it was this easy with everyone. 1st he condones cutting illegal imagrants toes off as a form of “marking” and now he just wants to kill everyone he doesnt agree with that is headed to jail due to bad laws. If you dont see now what type of person Mr English is all ive got to say is wow….a moronic war monger out for blood reguardless of the facts. What a total waste of a human being. to bad

  • Mr English (the troll)”Three Strikes and your out…out of time on this earth! We need to raise the penalty to a capitol offense…rather than feed, clothe, shelter, and provide medical care to those who wish to wage war on society through there deviant behavior…we need to eliminate them.”

    Mr english is so VERY good at undermineing his own position I wish it was this easy with everyone. 1st he condones cutting illegal imagrants toes off as a form of “marking” and now he just wants to kill everyone he doesnt agree with that is headed to jail due to bad laws. If you dont see now what type of person Mr English is all ive got to say is wow….a moronic war monger out for blood reguardless of the facts. What a total waste of a human being. to bad

  • know me personally and know nothing about me other than what I’ve written on your “stories” full of lies, deceit, inhumane ideals) facts are facts as long as they can be verified. All of my facts are verifiable with true science and the studies that have been done to prove it. On the other hand Mr. English you provide no factual basis for anything you’re saying, not a single verifiable statistic, and because you have no basis of standing you decide it’s a good idea to personally attack those that you don’t agree with. You yourself stated not to go around quoting the word unless you mean to live up to its high standards and I guess we’ll have to disagree here as everything I’ve seen about religion calls for compassion, truth, justice, humanity, all qualities you seem to know nothing about and certainly don’t put into practice. We’ve never met, you know nothing about me or my personal life, and when you’re faced with a response from me you don’t like you lie to everyone . If we’ve not met and you don’t know me how can you know if any of the things you are saying are true. Quite simply you cannot which only goes to show you’re not worth the time needed to further respond to any of your garbage. If in the future you decide to start actually using facts that can be verified, stop acting like a spoiled child with the personal attacks that are actually lies because you don’t know the person, then at that time I may consider treating you as a real person that has a legitimate point of view. Until then you’re pretty much garbage in garbage out and the whole world knows you’re a fool. Good day

  • Not sure what happened with that post as it got garbled when posted. It gets the point across but again sorry for whatever happened to it. Mr English, you need to grow up and start living by your own words when it comes to god and what he says as right now you do not. You are a liar and an evil man with a bendt tword attacking everything you dont understand….kinda like a dog chasing its tail not knowing its a part of himself.

  • John English:

    How dare you call me an evil man Chet! I do what I do for the children. As a locksmith, I had many an opportunity to be around families that had been affected negatively by drugs. How many times did I go to open up the door of someone’s house who had been locked out because of a beligerent spouse. I can only assume that most of the anger between those families was due to marijuana. What else could it have possibly been from?

    We need to shake up this society before we lose more generations of children. Children like Kathy Martin….who had too much LSD given to her at a Grateful Dead concert, and who then wrapped her car around a tree. Poor Kathy Martin.

    I care for the children, and I do what I do for the children Chet. You do what you do for your own narcissistic pleasure. You are a hedonist, and your own nihilism is taking you…and no doubt the children around you…right down a road to ruin. You are just too blinded to see it.

    But I’ll pray for ya Chet…just like I pray for other sinners. Hopefully it is not too late for you and those around you whose lives you are damaging.

  • Daimiste:

    Does anyone else get the impression John has gone a bit daft in the head? Disfiguring people? Mass executions? Come on John!

    I’m also wondering about who your comrades are John. You keep on saying “we”. What? Do you have a turd in your pocket or something?

    I’m also loving the religious hypocrisy. Many neo-cons are religious hypocrites, but your hypocrisy is truly pharasitical. I mean, you would have been right there casting stones at Photini in John chapter 4.

    Chet is right, you….like so many true blue drug warriors….are a totally useless person.

  • AlansK:

    Hey Chet, I think you got it right on the “(the troll)” part. With 1 troll and the author refusing to defend his position it looks like there’s no serious debate to be found here.

  • TYC:

    john english…”Before releasing them back to there country we mark them…perhaps by tattooing, branding, or cutting off a small toe…or a combination thereof… so as to be able to identify them if they try to sneak back in.”

    Who needs the Taliban when your neighbor is willing to mutilate you for using a drug that he doesn’t like? So, when do you shoot me for not drinking beer like a good, red blooded American? And, I though Wayne Wheeler was dead.

    Swing and a miss, John English. Try again!

  • John English:

    Chet…you need to learn how to use spell check…it’s spelled undermining…not undermineing. LOL Typical druggie looser! Can’t even spell. Put the bong down Chet…it isn’t doing you any good.

  • John English:

    Part of the problem…a large part…of our present legal system lays squarely with the lawyers. Anyone with enough money can literally get away with murder…just ask OJ.

    Major drug dealers…with nearly unlimited funds…are thumbing there noses at law abiding society…buying innocent verdicts as easily as they cross the border with there lethal narcotics. The rich…movie stars…athletes..musicians…feel that they are above the law. They are…as long as they can unfairly manipulate the system to there advantage!

    We need to enact new laws with regards to defense lawyers…laws that protect society…not the guilty. If the defendant can afford a high priced legal hit man he may well outgun the prosecution…especially in rural counties. We need to even the the playing field, requiring defendents who can afford high priced counsel to foot part of the prosecutions bill as well. We need to determine the average cost of a particular kind of trial…and if the defendant hires his own lawyer rather than rely on a public defender…they pay the difference, thereby giving equal footing to cash strapped jurisdictions.

    If a lawyer can be shown to know his client is guilty he should be held responsible for his actions. Knowing your client is guilty and working to get the best deal…and shortest prison sentence…for his client is his job…and legal. But knowing that the accused is guilty…and arguing (lieing) that he is the innocent vitim of cicumstance…is crimenal…and he should be charged as a co-conspiritor…and serve time for his crime. Same should apply to lawyers who argue that while a particular crime should not be illegal…drug crimes for example…and the jury should ignore federal, state ,or local law and set the offender free…should likewise be charged with conspiracy to commit whatever crime the defendant is charged with.

    Civil cases likewise need an overhaul. Anyone can sue another at the drop of the hat…and if they can afford a better shyster than the other guy…they most likely will win…regardless of culpability. Lawyers should be required to pay both parties costs if they are on the losing team…giving the accused a chance to find a good greedy lawyer of there own…one who will take the case on speculation. The losing sides lawyer(s) get nothing…and must pay all legal costs, court costs, and lawyers fees for the winning side. This should also include any lost wages due to the trial…and any financial penalties incurred during said time due to the financial stress the losing party placed on the victors.

    The only real winners in our present legal system are the lawyers…and that is flat out wrong!

    I know I’m a locksmith. Think of the children!

  • Sean:

    Wow! This is a pretty kooky thread of ‘discussion’. I came cross this while looking for someone else. The article was miind numbingly bad, so i decided to read through what people had said. I was amazed to see John English posting. He sounds like he is really losing it….more than it was already lost before anyway. I remember posting to English’s articles last summer also. Everyday he pumped out some new piece of pulp garbage, and was also very exclusive about which posters he would let through. He deleted a ton of material. What a boob.

    Do you remember Chet how one of the posters investigated John’s background, and even went so far as to contact some of him classmates through classmates.com? Well, it turned out John was a bully in high school. He was some douchebag jock sporting his letter jacket, and picking on weaker people. (Not that there is anything wrong with sports, he was simply remembered as being like Biff on Back to the Future.)

    Anyway, keep up the good fight folks. Peace!

  • Eat some taco’s and chill out.

  • John English:

    Tacos…more subversive contraband from the land of deviant drug pushers! How telling…that you should push onto the American people something else from south of the border…and try to suplant American tradition… cheese burgers, coca cola, and apple pie…with more vile imports from the same foul land that has brought us so much death and destruction with there deadly narcotics…marihuana, meth, cocaine, and extasy…brought north by illegal border jumping scoff laws to finance there further crimenal activities at the expense of our children! The amoral druggies would have us believe that all that comes from the country that is trying to bring our once great nation to it’s knees is nothing more than harmless fun. Mexican food is notoriously unhealthy and will kill you only slightly slower than there narcotics. It seems everything from this Satan’s den of inequity is designed for one thing and one thing only…to lead honest God fearing Christian youth into misery, decadence, drug addiction…and the devil’s arms! These drug addled loosers have lost there humanity and in there drug induced psychosis are intent on leading others to there doom. Of course the druggie pot heads can’t see what there addiction has done to them…marihuana does that to it’s users.

    I know I’m a locksmith. Think of the children!

  • This will be my last post on the subject of john english. As so many others have pointed out this guy is a kook (Dan fits this bill as well….all you need do is read his “story” as that is all it is…fiction. Nuff said and to everyone else keep fighting for the truth as we will get there.

    Sean Yes I do remember and I was also one of those that took it to the editors as spreading lies and misinformation when it is obvious is not something even FOX news would do let alone an editor trying to keep his readership. This, I believe (informed belief) is why we do not see the bogus “stories” from john anymore. Either way it’s a step in the right direction. Anyone that promotes mutilation and mass executions truly does not belong in a position to “inform” anyone about anything (and yes john it WILL follow you on every story and post you ever make in regards to medical cannabis…no credibility left at all). A god fearing good religious man indeed! You’ll also notice that every time he gets blasted by me his response is ALWAYS of a personal attack nature having nothing to do with the subject being “debated”…typical of someone that has no basis of reality. And just for you john I spell checked this as I wouldn’t want you to misunderstand what’s being said although it seems you’re the only one complaining of misspelled words heh.

  • So one other thing john (sorry couldn’t resists this one ;) …how do you feel about doctor prescribed heroin? Yes, Oxies are heroin but i guess you’d rather have people suffering severe pain than have any compassion whatsoever. You deserve to get a very nasty painful illness and then I’d like to see your attitude as pain is the great equalizer when it comes to religious moral misguided ignorant people like you.

  • Sean:

    I almost wonder if John is convalescing in a home somewhere, and manages to get a hold of a computer while a nurse is not looking. This is wome wild stuff. I would be laughing my arse off if it was comedy. In fact, I’d probably think it was comedy if I hadn’t gotten on board the “stop John English train” early in his writing career.

    I think I came on board around article number four or five. I wrote letters on occassion…but especially after his “Hooray! Jack Herrer is dead” rant.

    That guy is a total loser. I wonder if trolling obscure websites is going to be his big writing comeback.

  • HAHAHA it really doesnt matter what he does now after what he wrote here as now no one will take him seriously at all after this garbage. although in the past he has always written garbage this one took the cake to the point where I am not going to bother directly addressing him ever again. In fact as I come across his posts in the future I already have his responses and this entire article saved to post so all can see he isnt worth the time. Keep fighting the good fight all as we will get there :)

  • Dan: “Back in Michigan, the city of Pontiac is now grappling with another marijuana-related problem: Stoners have leased the previously shuttered Pontiac Silverdome and plan to hold the “First Ever International Cannabis Convention” at the former home of the Detroit Lions, whose fans just might show up, as they will take any pain relief they can get.”

    Ah so the doctors and scientists are stoners now to eh? I see you didnt bother to addrss exactly who is renting the silverdome and who is actually putting this on as if yoou had youd have seen that these are very respectable men in the medicine and science feilds….stoners eh? You sir are an idiot that spouts lies as you cannot support your claims with anything other than 2nd-3rd hand conversations but where are your verifiable facts and science? Oh that’s right, when it comes to cannabis, facts and science don’t belong as far as your concerned. This alone destroys your credibility altogether. Good job moron.

  • Here is an execelent article about “Mr” john english this hits him square in the nogin. Very well written and more to the point shows everyone what type of a person he really is (disgusting at the least)….read it and his comments above for a full view :)

    http://www.pissinginthecup.com/2009/08/meet-john-english-the-most-dangerous-person-in-portland-or/

  • A bit about “John”….

    “The Examiner family of online newspapers is now featuring the retired locksmith (and thus, drug policy expert) John English as a regular columnist. It seems his entire series of columns is dedicated to pushing reefer madness.

    In “Marijuana Crosses the Placenta“, John tortures the language he’s named after with fine writing like this:

    Effects on the fetus, though scientifically difficult to evaluate, for a variety of reasons, the detection of metabolites in meconium establishes fetal drug exposure. The effects on the babies after birth is obvious.
    Judging from his various cut’n’pastes from scientific articles I doubt he understands, I think his argument is that women who smoke a lot of pot while pregnant risk harming their babies, so we should lock them up. Wait’ll he sees the statistics on fetal alcohol syndrome!”

    You can read the rest here ….
    http://stash.norml.org/john-english-reefer-madman

    A VERY good read ;)

  • Activist1:

    Keep up the good work John. Everybody knows that medical marijuana is a scam. The people of Stanislaus county are behind you , we voted against dispensaries and the crime they bring.
    Arrest Richard Lee now! Are you listening DEA?
    Legalizers,Pffffft!

  • Seems Dan C is censoring me against John English go figure…..

  • John David Heaton III:

    What a bunch of retards you people are. I’m a Republican, and I get amazed at how you liberals constantly go around attacking people who disagree with you. You think that just because a person has different ideas than you that personal attacks are acceptable.

    I don’t know who this John English is, and I don’t really care. But just because he is some guy who wants less drugs in our society, well you people go after him like he deserves death by hanging. There is too much material to go through, but some guy named Daimiste called Republicans neo-cons, and said they are people who walk around like lumbering gorrillas…or something like that.

    Well, I guess you can’t teach stupid people. You leftist clowns are despicable, and you fill me with contempt.

  • AlansK:

    Hey John David Heaton. Never mind John English, he isn’t serious. How do you feel about legalization of marijuana and why?

  • BMoore:

    You’re all a bunch of commie libturds bowing down to your marxist leader Defacto. You people make me sick. Anyone even considering legalizing marijuana is a moron and should be sterilized for the betterment of mankind. We’ve seen plenty of your type on The Hive and I must tell you we’re onto your agenda. Medical marijuana is a hoax. It’s just an excuse to get high and drive to work stoned. We don’t need marijuana and we don’t need your kind.

  • AlansK:

    Hey BMoore,

    Why should marijuana be illegal? This is a free country isn’t it? I suppose you must have some good reason to prohibit the possession of a plant, please let me know your reasoning on that.

  • BMoore:

    Sigh! What’s the use?

  • John David Heaton III:

    He doesn’t know why marijuana should be illegal. LOL What a libturd. He probably spends all of his time in mommy’s basement playing video games and doing experiments on bong water!

  • AlansK:

    Hey BMoore, if you don’t see the use then why to do bother posting at all? C’mon, I’d like to hear what justification you have to support putting responsible adults in jail for the possession of a plant. Give it a shot.

    Hey John D Heaton, I’ve been writing these posts from one of the basements that I bought with the money I’ve made from programming over the last 30+ years so you can stop wondering about that. I was wondering if you had some justification for your position but apparently you do not. I’m still willing to listen if you do have any ideas other than insults.

    Thanks,

  • John English:

    Opium is a plant, coca is a plant – and just like them marijuana is a plant…and a source of vile narcotics. Marijuana is the gateway to these other two insidious poisons – once the novelty of marijuana wears off the user will move on to ever greater thrills.
    If not for marijuana few -very few – addicts would move on the heroin and cocaine…two drugs often mixed together to make what users call speedballs. Marijuana alters the addicts thinking…leaving them without critical decision making skills – they let the narcotic do the thinking for them!
    Not content to destroy only there live addicts will try to lure others…often children… into there decadent lifestyle. These dope fiends must be rooted out and forced to undergo treatment. By encarcerating them and locking them away from there drugs…perhaps for two years…perhaps for longer…they will one day wake up and see the light! This may seem harsh to some – but the vile poison called marijuana requires one to show “tough love” to it’s addicts to break it’s hold on them.

  • Charles:

    John English is right, as usual. The narcotic marijuana is highly addictive – only an enforced intervention will allow the addict to free himself from it’s bonds of chemical slavery.
    I know I’m a doctor.

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  • HOHOHO looks like mr english is also posting under differing names now as the words are the same but the login is now different…trying to make it look like there are more of you that agree with you eh john?

  • Chet R Biggerstaff:

    enough opinon john now try facts that can be verified but of course youve already said you wont use em so you opinon is worthless.

  • Finn:

    I see some things never change – the druggies still attack the messenger when confronted by the truth! The damage they do to themselves is grievous…the damage they cause to society is unforgivable. If it were not for people like John and Charles these amoral loosers would drag this once great Christian nation into the cesspool of narcotic oblivion. Nice try potheads – but no dice.

  • AlansK:

    Hey Finn, How about giving some details on the “grevious” effects marijuana would have on some one over a period of say 20 years. Please cite studies or other sources if you are aware of any. Btw, I beleive it is our form of government and the freedom it affords us that has made this country great, not religion.

    Hey Charles, could you define “highly addictive” and cite any studies that give credence to your claim?

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